I've just spent my break looking and reading your emails - you were definitely on the right trail. I can't begin to thank you enough for your diligence and research on James M Shay.
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This past year has really taught me a lot about researching genealogy. Using family oral history as well as logic and geography really made fleshing out the details of James Monroe Shay's life fun.
Several times I got thrown down the wrong path trying to connect James with the right family. There were 3 other James Shays born between 1835-1838 that I suspected could be him. The James Shay from Ohio first made sense when I saw that the 1870 & 1880 census for his daughters listed their father as born in Ohio. I also looked at the James Shay from Western PA. Also the James Shay from Newburgh, NY also could fit.
But there were always questions that lingered for me about Jane Shay's line. My great grandfather claimed to have native american in his background, he said he had ancestors that went out west to California and he said that he had 3 family members who fought in the Civil War. One of these men was shot in the face. Also I was puzzeled why Jane Shay left Scott Co., MO after 1880 to arrive in Potter Co., PA by 1885. I always thought that there must have been a connection.
You helped me put everything together when you discovered Nancy Shay's marriage record to Thomas Owens and you ordered James Shay's pension records. The pension records gave us most of our info about James. When I looked into all the Shays near Potter County in the 1800's and in Allegany & Livingston County...Silas Shay stood out and was hard to connect. After you received Silas Shay's pension records...it seemed very probable that Silas and James were brothers linking them as sons of Peter Shay Jr. I am happy that JK has been able to confirm that James Monroe Shay was a son of Peter.
I have fleshed out most of the oral history my great grandfather George Heath gave. I have a strong feeling that Stavina, mother of James is probably the Native American since she came from out West in the 1820's. I hope J can confirm this or has something about this subject. We are almost there.
Friday, July 10, 2009
July 8, 2008 - Trappers in MO
I think I will try to go thru my emails - and see if I can locate the information we came across about the company who went to CA and hired men.
This may have been around the same time frame. I am so excited. I have to unpack my files tonight and put them back in order. I could hardly sleep last night --
This may have been around the same time frame. I am so excited. I have to unpack my files tonight and put them back in order. I could hardly sleep last night --
July 8, 2008 - 18 Months to Crack the Puzzle - James Monroe Shay Ancestors Confirmed!
She found me on Ancestry with my listing of James Monroe Shay as the son of Peter Shay and sent me an email. I was so happy for her to confirm that Peter Shay did in fact have a son by the name of James Monroe Shay.
I kept reading this email over and I think that if Peter Shay went out West on a scouting expedition then he would have had to of done it in the 1820's. During the 1820's...many trappers and settlers from the United States and Canada began to arrive on the West coast.
(Side note: My Uncle says that George Heath use to say that he had ancestors that went out to California). Since I know that nobody on the Heath side ever went out West, I wonder if George was referencing Peter Shay who would have been his great grandfather.
Also since Nathaniel Shay was born in January 1829 in New York, Peter Shay would have to of met his wife out West and married her by 1828. There could not have been too many women out West at that point. Many of the scouting expeditions were made up mainly of men. Also many Indian Tribes were making treaties with Americans or relocating. Given the name and vague information on Peter's wife. I think she is a very good candidate for being out Native American Woman that we are descended from.
I sent JK an email giving her all of James Monroe Shay's information...and setting the record straight that he fought for the Union and not the confederacy during the Civil War.
I asked her if she ever heard anything about a Native American connection. I am waiting on a reply from her. I am looking forward to any info she sends me and will forward it onto you.
I have Peter Shay Sr. Revolutionary War Pension Records. It sounds like Peter Sr, Peter Jr and James Shay all lead interesting lives. Its taken about 18 months to really crack the puzzle.
I kept reading this email over and I think that if Peter Shay went out West on a scouting expedition then he would have had to of done it in the 1820's. During the 1820's...many trappers and settlers from the United States and Canada began to arrive on the West coast.
(Side note: My Uncle says that George Heath use to say that he had ancestors that went out to California). Since I know that nobody on the Heath side ever went out West, I wonder if George was referencing Peter Shay who would have been his great grandfather.
Also since Nathaniel Shay was born in January 1829 in New York, Peter Shay would have to of met his wife out West and married her by 1828. There could not have been too many women out West at that point. Many of the scouting expeditions were made up mainly of men. Also many Indian Tribes were making treaties with Americans or relocating. Given the name and vague information on Peter's wife. I think she is a very good candidate for being out Native American Woman that we are descended from.
I sent JK an email giving her all of James Monroe Shay's information...and setting the record straight that he fought for the Union and not the confederacy during the Civil War.
I asked her if she ever heard anything about a Native American connection. I am waiting on a reply from her. I am looking forward to any info she sends me and will forward it onto you.
I have Peter Shay Sr. Revolutionary War Pension Records. It sounds like Peter Sr, Peter Jr and James Shay all lead interesting lives. Its taken about 18 months to really crack the puzzle.
July 5, 2008 -- Peter Shay Jr -- James Monroe Shay Connection
Thought you might find this very interesting.
James M. Shay is the missing link to Peter Shay's family.
I am exchanging emails back and forth with JK who is a descendant of James' brother Nathaniel.
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Thanks so much for your quick response.
I have been researching the Peter Shay family for a number of years, and your info on Ancestry.com was the first mention of James Monroe Shay that I have found anywhere.
I was delighted to find it, and what I found made me quite sure that we were working on the same family.
Let me first of all tell you where I fit into this family. I am descended from Peter Shay’s oldest son Nathaniel who was born 19 Jan 1829. He would be my great-great grandfather. My mother was a Shay and I grew up just a few miles from where the Shay family settled in Ossian, Allegany NY in about 1812. I have a lot of information on Peter Shay, Sr. and his family from his pension record, family sources and local NY sources.
There have been two books on the Peter Shay family privately printed, one in 1983 by Marian Fox Graves and one in 1990 by Marion E. Scott. I have copies of these, and I did some work in census records and Civil War records for the Scott book. Neither of these is perfect, and later research has proved some things in error, but it was helpful to have something to start with.
James Monroe has been the missing son in the Peter Shay, Jr. family. None of the family that remained in western NY apparently knew that he had gone to MO.
The Peter Shay, Jr. family has been difficult to trace for several reasons. Peter, Jr. met his wife somewhere out west when he was on a scouting expedition. They were married there and then returned to Ossian. The spelling of his wife’s name has never been certain and it takes many different forms: Statira, Stalina, Stavina, etc. The last child, Oscar E., was born about 1843 and Peter’s wife died soon after that. Family tradition says that two of Peter’s children were taken to Virginia to live with his oldest sister Anne who married a Shippey. Peter’s father had died in 1840 and then his mother died in 1848, both in Ossian. I have been unable to find any of them in the 1850 census, in any state, except for Nancy, George, and William living in Deerfield, Warren PA with Mary and Ira Boughton. There is an 1855 NY state census listing for Peter in Burns, Allegany Co. with Nancy A. 22, James M. 18, William 16. That is the only time I have found James Monroe in a census. The stories that have come down through the family about James Monroe were all I had to work with. One was that he was taken prisoner in the Civil War and died at Andersonville, and the other was that he had enlisted as a Confederate soldier. Probably the easiest way for me to get information to you is for me to mail my family group sheets for Peter, Sr. and Peter, Jr. I use the PAF program (Personal Ancestral File) for record keeping and notes, and hard copies would preserve my notes and formatting better than e-mail, I think. If you’ll send your address to me, I’ll get these in the mail right away. I think these will answer many of your questions on the family.
An interesting coincidence is that we are driving up to NY for a Shay family reunion on July 18 in Dansville, and I have been updating my Shay files to take to share. Now I have a great discovery to share! Thanks for all the good information on James Monroe . I look forward to working with you to solve some of the other brick walls in this family.
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You have made my day ..... my sister's birthday was the 4th and I just read this email to her ... she said that it was a great birthday present.
How did you ever find this JK?
Was it thru the name that you sent re: Indian connection?
I can't believe this -- Will you go to the Shay Reunion?-- the Seeley Reunion is the same day - but I would love to meet her - not sure though I could do both.
James M. Shay is the missing link to Peter Shay's family.
I am exchanging emails back and forth with JK who is a descendant of James' brother Nathaniel.
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Thanks so much for your quick response.
I have been researching the Peter Shay family for a number of years, and your info on Ancestry.com was the first mention of James Monroe Shay that I have found anywhere.
I was delighted to find it, and what I found made me quite sure that we were working on the same family.
Let me first of all tell you where I fit into this family. I am descended from Peter Shay’s oldest son Nathaniel who was born 19 Jan 1829. He would be my great-great grandfather. My mother was a Shay and I grew up just a few miles from where the Shay family settled in Ossian, Allegany NY in about 1812. I have a lot of information on Peter Shay, Sr. and his family from his pension record, family sources and local NY sources.
There have been two books on the Peter Shay family privately printed, one in 1983 by Marian Fox Graves and one in 1990 by Marion E. Scott. I have copies of these, and I did some work in census records and Civil War records for the Scott book. Neither of these is perfect, and later research has proved some things in error, but it was helpful to have something to start with.
James Monroe has been the missing son in the Peter Shay, Jr. family. None of the family that remained in western NY apparently knew that he had gone to MO.
The Peter Shay, Jr. family has been difficult to trace for several reasons. Peter, Jr. met his wife somewhere out west when he was on a scouting expedition. They were married there and then returned to Ossian. The spelling of his wife’s name has never been certain and it takes many different forms: Statira, Stalina, Stavina, etc. The last child, Oscar E., was born about 1843 and Peter’s wife died soon after that. Family tradition says that two of Peter’s children were taken to Virginia to live with his oldest sister Anne who married a Shippey. Peter’s father had died in 1840 and then his mother died in 1848, both in Ossian. I have been unable to find any of them in the 1850 census, in any state, except for Nancy, George, and William living in Deerfield, Warren PA with Mary and Ira Boughton. There is an 1855 NY state census listing for Peter in Burns, Allegany Co. with Nancy A. 22, James M. 18, William 16. That is the only time I have found James Monroe in a census. The stories that have come down through the family about James Monroe were all I had to work with. One was that he was taken prisoner in the Civil War and died at Andersonville, and the other was that he had enlisted as a Confederate soldier. Probably the easiest way for me to get information to you is for me to mail my family group sheets for Peter, Sr. and Peter, Jr. I use the PAF program (Personal Ancestral File) for record keeping and notes, and hard copies would preserve my notes and formatting better than e-mail, I think. If you’ll send your address to me, I’ll get these in the mail right away. I think these will answer many of your questions on the family.
An interesting coincidence is that we are driving up to NY for a Shay family reunion on July 18 in Dansville, and I have been updating my Shay files to take to share. Now I have a great discovery to share! Thanks for all the good information on James Monroe . I look forward to working with you to solve some of the other brick walls in this family.
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You have made my day ..... my sister's birthday was the 4th and I just read this email to her ... she said that it was a great birthday present.
How did you ever find this JK?
Was it thru the name that you sent re: Indian connection?
I can't believe this -- Will you go to the Shay Reunion?-- the Seeley Reunion is the same day - but I would love to meet her - not sure though I could do both.
June 5, 2008 - Possibility of Native American Connection
I think there might be a possibility that our Native American connection to Jane Shay comes in through James Shay's side and not Margaret Mayberry's family. Charlotte Heath Sofa is now recalling her father mentioning that there was Indian blood coming from New York. If this is true I believe it would come in through James Shay's mother's side. Since I am convinced that Silas & James were brothers that also makes him a brother to Nathaniel, Nancy, Mary, George, William & Amanda as well.
Nathaniel Shay's marriage record says he is the son of Peter Shay & Satira Sutton. William Shay's death record lists him as the son of Peter Shay & Sophronia Sutton. Census records for their children lists Peter's birthplace as NJ and lists Sophronia/Satira's birthplace as NY. The 1880 record for Nathaniel lists his mother as being born in CT. Not sure if that means the Suttons originally came from CT or not. It could be that the Suttons had Native American blood in them and were assimulated into European American society.
We may want to keep out our eyes and ears open to any postings on genealogy sites that mention northern native american ancestry in any Shay or Sutton lines. I will try and see if any descendants of Nathaniel, Nancy, Mary, George, William or Amanda are posting any family trees or inquiries.
The following info comes from Wikipedia:
The Iroquois Nation covered much of Western and Upstate New York in the 17th and 18th centuries and consisted of five nations: the Mohawk, the Oneida, the Onondaga, the Cayuga, and the Seneca. A sixth tribe, the Tuscarora, joined after the original five nations were formed.
In the late eighteenth century, reformers starting with George Washington and John Knox, supported educating native children, in efforts to "civilize" or otherwise assimilate Native Americans to the larger society (as opposed to relegating them to reservations). The Civilization Fund Act of 1819 promoted this civilization policy by providing funding to societies (mostly religious) who worked on Native American improvement.
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It is good to hear from you. I have tried to trace out the Sophronia Sutton line but didn't have much luck.
Haven't had much time to do genealogy - my daughter bought a house and we are in the process of moving.
My notebooks, photos, and notes take up 4 plastic totes - she said I had to get a life that I had more stuff about dead people than I had for my class notes, clothes, etc.
I will pass this info on to my sister.
Don't forget the Seeley reunion is coming up next month - we would love to have your family including your Uncle Justin as guests. It is Watkins Glen State Park this year.
Nathaniel Shay's marriage record says he is the son of Peter Shay & Satira Sutton. William Shay's death record lists him as the son of Peter Shay & Sophronia Sutton. Census records for their children lists Peter's birthplace as NJ and lists Sophronia/Satira's birthplace as NY. The 1880 record for Nathaniel lists his mother as being born in CT. Not sure if that means the Suttons originally came from CT or not. It could be that the Suttons had Native American blood in them and were assimulated into European American society.
We may want to keep out our eyes and ears open to any postings on genealogy sites that mention northern native american ancestry in any Shay or Sutton lines. I will try and see if any descendants of Nathaniel, Nancy, Mary, George, William or Amanda are posting any family trees or inquiries.
The following info comes from Wikipedia:
The Iroquois Nation covered much of Western and Upstate New York in the 17th and 18th centuries and consisted of five nations: the Mohawk, the Oneida, the Onondaga, the Cayuga, and the Seneca. A sixth tribe, the Tuscarora, joined after the original five nations were formed.
In the late eighteenth century, reformers starting with George Washington and John Knox, supported educating native children, in efforts to "civilize" or otherwise assimilate Native Americans to the larger society (as opposed to relegating them to reservations). The Civilization Fund Act of 1819 promoted this civilization policy by providing funding to societies (mostly religious) who worked on Native American improvement.
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It is good to hear from you. I have tried to trace out the Sophronia Sutton line but didn't have much luck.
Haven't had much time to do genealogy - my daughter bought a house and we are in the process of moving.
My notebooks, photos, and notes take up 4 plastic totes - she said I had to get a life that I had more stuff about dead people than I had for my class notes, clothes, etc.
I will pass this info on to my sister.
Don't forget the Seeley reunion is coming up next month - we would love to have your family including your Uncle Justin as guests. It is Watkins Glen State Park this year.
May 7, 2008 - William Heath with young sons George & Will Jr.
Toni has boxes full of ancestor photos from both Heath & Amidon side. Here is another one she scanned in and sent me. She will send in more photos as she scans. She has more of William Heath's family.
May 8, 2008 - Pictures
My sister Lynne and I are so pleased with you sharing the pictures with us. She was so thrilled with the pictures - particularly the one with our Dad - we have very few pictures of him growing up or in his early 20s. She also pointed out that we have a picture of my Dad and Uncle Bill with Kate Heath - and they look quite a bit like George and Will Jr.
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I will be downloading the pictures and printing them onto nice picture paper. I can mail some over to you. My parents have a kodac camera printer that I already started printing these photos onto. They look like they are originals. Its great. Toni told me that she has had some scanner problems but will be scanning many more photos in the next month.
When I first started talking to Toni about pictures in 2007, she said she remembered somewhere in the collection there was a photo of a man in a civil war uniform. I have been patiently waiting for her to find the pic, scan it and send it my way.
I figure the Civil War pic is either William Heath or James Shay. I am thinking it is most likely William Heath though. There are a lot of Heath photos in Toni's collection. It will be cool to get the pic though.
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Would be easier for you to save the pictures to CD or DVD? This way we could share them with our brothers. My sister showed my brother Rick the pictures you sent. He asked where was the picture taken - I was assuming that it was taken at George Heath's farm? Please thank Toni for us. I would like to say again - we are so blessed that you answered my email a year ago - we have learned about the Heaths - but also it appeared that our Dad had a strong relationship with the Heaths. My sister recalled hearing my Dad talk about Uncle Frank.
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Yes I remember my grandmother talking about Uncle Frank. He was a hermit that lived in a shack in Heath Hollow...the original land of Nehemiah & Catherine Heath. He was a beekeeper and the Heath & Seeley cousins would come down the hill when they were kids and Uncle Frank would make them pancakes. He is became the guardian for Jim & Kate Heath after their father passed away.
Do you want me to send a CD now with all the pictures on it or wait a little when I get more photos. Let me know.
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You can wait until you get more. There is no hurry.
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I will be downloading the pictures and printing them onto nice picture paper. I can mail some over to you. My parents have a kodac camera printer that I already started printing these photos onto. They look like they are originals. Its great. Toni told me that she has had some scanner problems but will be scanning many more photos in the next month.
When I first started talking to Toni about pictures in 2007, she said she remembered somewhere in the collection there was a photo of a man in a civil war uniform. I have been patiently waiting for her to find the pic, scan it and send it my way.
I figure the Civil War pic is either William Heath or James Shay. I am thinking it is most likely William Heath though. There are a lot of Heath photos in Toni's collection. It will be cool to get the pic though.
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Would be easier for you to save the pictures to CD or DVD? This way we could share them with our brothers. My sister showed my brother Rick the pictures you sent. He asked where was the picture taken - I was assuming that it was taken at George Heath's farm? Please thank Toni for us. I would like to say again - we are so blessed that you answered my email a year ago - we have learned about the Heaths - but also it appeared that our Dad had a strong relationship with the Heaths. My sister recalled hearing my Dad talk about Uncle Frank.
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Yes I remember my grandmother talking about Uncle Frank. He was a hermit that lived in a shack in Heath Hollow...the original land of Nehemiah & Catherine Heath. He was a beekeeper and the Heath & Seeley cousins would come down the hill when they were kids and Uncle Frank would make them pancakes. He is became the guardian for Jim & Kate Heath after their father passed away.
Do you want me to send a CD now with all the pictures on it or wait a little when I get more photos. Let me know.
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You can wait until you get more. There is no hurry.
May 7, 2008 -
Here is a picture that Tony Heath Schramm found in her collection. Some of the Heath relatives mixing with some of Emaline's relatives. On the back is written the following.
Pic: Family gathering ..circa late 1930's?
Paul Dennis, Emaline Amidon Heath, Nigel Long (friend), Frances Stewart, George Heath, Lyndon Seeley, Jennie Dennis - in front: Charlotte Heath, Josie Seeley (first cousin to dad), Helen Dennis (wife of Bob), Bob Dennis, and right in front: Henry Seeley (Pic taken by John Dennis)
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This is a great photo - thank you so much please tell Tony thank you. Lyndon was my dad - Nigel was Aunt Georgie's brother- Josie - I'm assuming was Josephine - my Dad's sister. Who are the Dennis's?
April 23, 2008 - Sidney Crandall
Not sure if this individual is related to our Crandalls but I thought it interesting he was married to a Mary Chase and lived in Potter County.
SIDNEY CRANDALL
Well Known Former Whitesville Citizen Died at Andover Saturday
SIDNEY CRANDALL, a former resident of this place, and a man well known throughout Allegany County, died at his home in Andover saturday morning at 1 o'clock at the age of 73 yrs. Funeral was held from late home in Andover, Monday morning, and interment was made in Rural Cemetery at this place, Rev. F. M. Baker, pastor of the M. E. church of Andover, officiated at both services.Mr. CRANDALL was born in this village Feb. 2, 1840, where he made his home until he reached the age of twenty-one. In 1861 he enlisted in the union army, and served throughout the civil war. He spent one year in Andersonville prison.In 1867 he married Mary CHASE of this place. He conducted a general merchandise business at Raymond, Potter county, Pa., for a number of years, afterwards, moving to this place, where he also was in the mercantile business.
In the early eighties Mrs. CRANDALL died, and several years later he was united in marriage to Mrs. Clara DEXTER.It was while in business in this village he was elected County Superintendent of the Poor on the Republican ticket. He very capably filled this position for two terms, the present incumbent, D. C. GRUNDER, being his successor.Mr. CRANDALL was a member of the Baptist church. He was also a charter member of DEXTER Post, G. A. R., but upon his retirement from public office he took up Andover as his residence, and was transferred to that post.He was engaged in the store business in Andover for a time. Mr. CRANDALL was a public spirited citizen, much beloved by all who knew him.For three or four years the deceased had been in failing health. The immediate cause of his demise was a shock. He is survived by his wife of Andover, and four sons: Maurice, of Rochester and Wilford of Sistersville, W. Va., by his first marriage: George and Frank of Andover by his second marriage, and two sisters, Mrs. John ROSE and Mrs. Antoinette DEXTER, both of this place, besides many other sorrowing friends and relatives.
SIDNEY CRANDALL
Well Known Former Whitesville Citizen Died at Andover Saturday
SIDNEY CRANDALL, a former resident of this place, and a man well known throughout Allegany County, died at his home in Andover saturday morning at 1 o'clock at the age of 73 yrs. Funeral was held from late home in Andover, Monday morning, and interment was made in Rural Cemetery at this place, Rev. F. M. Baker, pastor of the M. E. church of Andover, officiated at both services.Mr. CRANDALL was born in this village Feb. 2, 1840, where he made his home until he reached the age of twenty-one. In 1861 he enlisted in the union army, and served throughout the civil war. He spent one year in Andersonville prison.In 1867 he married Mary CHASE of this place. He conducted a general merchandise business at Raymond, Potter county, Pa., for a number of years, afterwards, moving to this place, where he also was in the mercantile business.
In the early eighties Mrs. CRANDALL died, and several years later he was united in marriage to Mrs. Clara DEXTER.It was while in business in this village he was elected County Superintendent of the Poor on the Republican ticket. He very capably filled this position for two terms, the present incumbent, D. C. GRUNDER, being his successor.Mr. CRANDALL was a member of the Baptist church. He was also a charter member of DEXTER Post, G. A. R., but upon his retirement from public office he took up Andover as his residence, and was transferred to that post.He was engaged in the store business in Andover for a time. Mr. CRANDALL was a public spirited citizen, much beloved by all who knew him.For three or four years the deceased had been in failing health. The immediate cause of his demise was a shock. He is survived by his wife of Andover, and four sons: Maurice, of Rochester and Wilford of Sistersville, W. Va., by his first marriage: George and Frank of Andover by his second marriage, and two sisters, Mrs. John ROSE and Mrs. Antoinette DEXTER, both of this place, besides many other sorrowing friends and relatives.
April 10, 2008 - Clarence Lane/Maude Button/Henrietta Wood
Just had a few minutes at lunch today and was searching for info on the Wood side of the family. We have been able to trace the Wood side back to Robert Henry Wood and then the info stops. Aunt Edie said she was unable to find any thing beyond that point either.
So today I was inputting different names of my g grandfather's siblings ... Henrietta Wood and 'lo and behold - the search brought up her daugher Maude who happened to be married to a Clarence Lane (1st wife)... which then brought up your family tree!
Henrietta was a sibling of George W. Wood ... my g grandfather their parents were: Robert Henry Wood and Altena Bice. Did you know of this connection?
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No I did not...I did have it written down on my notes that my grandfather's first wife Maude Button was the daughter of a Henrietta Wood. Wow...small world. My mother has the wedding china from my grandfather's wedding to Maude...from 1914. My mother will think that connection is cool.
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can't wait to relay this info to Aunt Edie. She will be most pleased.
So today I was inputting different names of my g grandfather's siblings ... Henrietta Wood and 'lo and behold - the search brought up her daugher Maude who happened to be married to a Clarence Lane (1st wife)... which then brought up your family tree!
Henrietta was a sibling of George W. Wood ... my g grandfather their parents were: Robert Henry Wood and Altena Bice. Did you know of this connection?
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No I did not...I did have it written down on my notes that my grandfather's first wife Maude Button was the daughter of a Henrietta Wood. Wow...small world. My mother has the wedding china from my grandfather's wedding to Maude...from 1914. My mother will think that connection is cool.
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can't wait to relay this info to Aunt Edie. She will be most pleased.
April 7, 2008 - Uncle Roy
Aunt Edie's husband "Roy" Wood passed away yesterday. His calling hours and funeral are tomorrow with a full military burial service at the VA on Thursday morning.
March 28, 2008 - "The Shay"
Not sure if I sent this to you before or not, but there is on record a legal action that took place back in 1875 in Warren County. Parshall v. Conklin - in the lawsuit it mentions a John F Vaneps selling to Silas Shay deed dated 12/28/1869.
There appears to be various pieces of land but one in particular is referred to as "The Shay" which apparently was 300 acres.
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There appears to be various pieces of land but one in particular is referred to as "The Shay" which apparently was 300 acres.
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March 27, 2008 - Amanda Shay
Shortcut to: http://books.google.com/books?id=zq5OAAAAMAAJ&pg=PA477&lpg=PA477&dq=%22Amanda+Shay%22&source=bl&ots=oL6grTdrsS&sig=LNCJ5NlkUGMcM8-gskG7FRy2ujY&hl=en&ei=9hvNSe_hCN7tlQfShPHtCQ&sa=X&oi=book_result&resnum=3&ct=result
Do you think this might be our Amanda Shay?
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Yeah that is the same Amanda Melvina Shay although she married Joshua Hill Richardson in 1860.
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They had 3 children Jessie, Lennie and LaVerne (bert) - I found a deed recording where an Elam E. and Laverne F. Richardson bought property in Thompson Township in 11/2008 - it was in the Wyalusing, PA newspaper -- I wonder if this is a grandchild of Amanda.
Do you think this might be our Amanda Shay?
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Yeah that is the same Amanda Melvina Shay although she married Joshua Hill Richardson in 1860.
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They had 3 children Jessie, Lennie and LaVerne (bert) - I found a deed recording where an Elam E. and Laverne F. Richardson bought property in Thompson Township in 11/2008 - it was in the Wyalusing, PA newspaper -- I wonder if this is a grandchild of Amanda.
March 26, 2008 - Delilah Chase and her Sister Amanda
Delilah's sister Amanda was married to a Monroe - I truly find this fascinating because on my Mom's side there is a Martha Monroe that married a Bice - I think there may be a remote connection between my Mom's ancestors and my Dad's ancestors. ...
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Well there is the old saying...you go back far enough in Potter County and you'll discover that everyone is related.
I truely think that James Monroe Shay is the son of Peter Shay & Sophronia Sutton. The Suttons are either from NY, PA or CT depending on which census you look at for Peter & Sophronia's children. I also think that Peter Shay born in Nov 1800 in NJ is the son of Peter Shay & Catharine Bunn who moved from Morris County, NJ to Ossian, NY around 1809. The 1820 & 1830 census would hint at this. 1820 census for Peter Shay's house hold in Ossian, NY.2 males - 18 to 26 years old1 male - 27 to 45 years old1 male - 46 years old & up1 female - age 16 to 261 female - age 45 and up
List of Peter & Catherine's known children:1) Anna, b. 17822) Richard, b. 17843) John, b. 17884) Elizabeth, b. 1791 5) Lewis, b. 17946) Mary, b. 1797
By the 1820 census, Anna, Richard, Elizabeth would have been out of the household. Anna Shay might never have left New Jersey since her family would have moved when she was 26 years old. By then she was probably married with children of her own. Richard was married by 1820 with several young children, and Elizabeth was married to John Gelson.
Below are the most likely candidates of who was living in Peter Shay's household in 1820. John Shay (would have been bet. 27 to 45 years old in 1820)Lewis Shay (would have been bet. 18 to 26 years old in 1820)Mary Shay (would have been bet. 16 to 26 years old in 1820)
Now there is an extra male between the ages of 18 to 26. I think this is Peter Shay and I think he is the youngest child of Peter & Catharine. I also think he is the person that has the wife and young child living with Peter Shay in 1830 census. Also it would make sense that out of several sons Peter had, one of them would take his name.
Where the Monroe connection would come in I do not know? I am estimating that Sophronia Sutton would have been born bet. 1800-1810 according to the 1840 census of Young Peter Shay's household. She was most likely deceased by 1860 since Peter Shay is living by himself. Perhaps the Monroe connection comes in through her...perhaps her mother was a Monroe prior to 1800. I would not know where the Sutton Family would have originated since most of the counties in Western New York where first being found in the early 1800's. Before then, many of the settlers cames from MA, CT, VT, NYC area or NJ.
If James Shay is indeed Sophronia Sutton Shay's son, then he would be her 5th child. It could be a possibility that she chose to name her son after her mother's background. Monroe is a very common name. I see the name pop up in all the counties in the 1800's. With this little of info, its hard to gage what connection the name Monroe plays with James or which Monroes might be connected. James was born in 1836, and the earliest records of a Monroe connection may be the very early 1800's or 1700's.
I do love a good puzzle to solve.
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Well there is the old saying...you go back far enough in Potter County and you'll discover that everyone is related.
I truely think that James Monroe Shay is the son of Peter Shay & Sophronia Sutton. The Suttons are either from NY, PA or CT depending on which census you look at for Peter & Sophronia's children. I also think that Peter Shay born in Nov 1800 in NJ is the son of Peter Shay & Catharine Bunn who moved from Morris County, NJ to Ossian, NY around 1809. The 1820 & 1830 census would hint at this. 1820 census for Peter Shay's house hold in Ossian, NY.2 males - 18 to 26 years old1 male - 27 to 45 years old1 male - 46 years old & up1 female - age 16 to 261 female - age 45 and up
List of Peter & Catherine's known children:1) Anna, b. 17822) Richard, b. 17843) John, b. 17884) Elizabeth, b. 1791 5) Lewis, b. 17946) Mary, b. 1797
By the 1820 census, Anna, Richard, Elizabeth would have been out of the household. Anna Shay might never have left New Jersey since her family would have moved when she was 26 years old. By then she was probably married with children of her own. Richard was married by 1820 with several young children, and Elizabeth was married to John Gelson.
Below are the most likely candidates of who was living in Peter Shay's household in 1820. John Shay (would have been bet. 27 to 45 years old in 1820)Lewis Shay (would have been bet. 18 to 26 years old in 1820)Mary Shay (would have been bet. 16 to 26 years old in 1820)
Now there is an extra male between the ages of 18 to 26. I think this is Peter Shay and I think he is the youngest child of Peter & Catharine. I also think he is the person that has the wife and young child living with Peter Shay in 1830 census. Also it would make sense that out of several sons Peter had, one of them would take his name.
Where the Monroe connection would come in I do not know? I am estimating that Sophronia Sutton would have been born bet. 1800-1810 according to the 1840 census of Young Peter Shay's household. She was most likely deceased by 1860 since Peter Shay is living by himself. Perhaps the Monroe connection comes in through her...perhaps her mother was a Monroe prior to 1800. I would not know where the Sutton Family would have originated since most of the counties in Western New York where first being found in the early 1800's. Before then, many of the settlers cames from MA, CT, VT, NYC area or NJ.
If James Shay is indeed Sophronia Sutton Shay's son, then he would be her 5th child. It could be a possibility that she chose to name her son after her mother's background. Monroe is a very common name. I see the name pop up in all the counties in the 1800's. With this little of info, its hard to gage what connection the name Monroe plays with James or which Monroes might be connected. James was born in 1836, and the earliest records of a Monroe connection may be the very early 1800's or 1700's.
I do love a good puzzle to solve.
March 25, 2008 -- Silas Shay's daughter Bessie
Daughter of Silas and Delilah Shay - Bessie L. Shay married William Manley - they had 2 children: Dan Manley (7 Jul 1903 - Dec 1955 or 1930?) and Roena Manley (1906). Roena married Charles Sylvester Davie (1898) - they had 2 children Barbara 1928 and J. David 1930 Maybe if we trace these 2 people down - we might find some photos or something.
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I looked into Bessie's line and Bessie was divorced from William Manley by 1930. As far as I could find Don Manley is buried in Sweden Hill Cemetery near his mother and grandparents. I would guess that there are still descendants in Potter County of Bessie Shay Manley.
On a side note: My great-grandfather George Heath use to tell my Uncle Justin that the Heath side was connected/related to the Knickerbocker Family in Potter County. I have found no evidence as of yet on how we are connected. Neither George or Emaline's side seems to have ties to the family. Just thought you might find that interesting. I wonder where that missing link is.
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At one point when I was looking at Roena - I believe the daughter was still alive and may be living in FL.
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I looked into Bessie's line and Bessie was divorced from William Manley by 1930. As far as I could find Don Manley is buried in Sweden Hill Cemetery near his mother and grandparents. I would guess that there are still descendants in Potter County of Bessie Shay Manley.
On a side note: My great-grandfather George Heath use to tell my Uncle Justin that the Heath side was connected/related to the Knickerbocker Family in Potter County. I have found no evidence as of yet on how we are connected. Neither George or Emaline's side seems to have ties to the family. Just thought you might find that interesting. I wonder where that missing link is.
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At one point when I was looking at Roena - I believe the daughter was still alive and may be living in FL.
March 23, 2008 - Silas's File - Just Arrived!!!
It was delivered just as we sat down for dinner tonight. It is 65 pages and yes, he was severely wounded on the face. Will scan tomorrow and send to you the pages of the documents. Will send a synopsis as soon as I go thru it quickly. Just numbered the pages so I don't mix them up as I did the James Shay ones.
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Wow,When reading about the head injury from a gunshot...it was exactly how my great-grandfather George Heath mentioned it to his children and grandchildren. He always talked about having 3 family members that served in the War. He knew the one that suffered from the gunshot to the head. My uncle Lynn couldn't remember how that member fit into the family. George Heath would have been 15 years old when Silas Shay died. I am pretty sure that Silas Shay was a brother to James Shay and uncle to Jane & Nancy. This is all starting to tie together.
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Here's a quick synopsis of the documents (excuse the typos)
Delila R. Shay - Widow of Silas L. Shay
Silas died 4/18/1902
People present at marriage are all dead except claimant Delila R. Shay
She was married before and former husband died about the year 1883
First husband was B. F. Roberts married 1862
Married to Shay for about 22 years
He was never married before
Lived together as man and wife until his death Silas L. Shay
At time of his death - he 119 acres of land in Sweden Township
5 Cows, 1 horse and farming implements
1 legal heir - daughter who married William Manley
Died Intestate - Widow only receive 1/3 of his property
Left no life insurance or other means of support for his wife Delila Shay
Own right owned 94 acres of land in Sweden Township
Married 3 July 1884 in Sweden to Silas
She married B. F. Roberts June 1, 1862 and he died April 18, 1882
William Manley husband of Shay’s daughter and heir occupies the farm and has charge of all the property left by Silas Shay
Also charge of farm belonging to Delila R. Shay
No leases of any kind
He works the farm
Delila makes her home with said Wm Manley
Certificate of Disability for Discharge Silas L. Shay - Enlisted 3 Nov 1861 to serve 3 years
Discharged 10/6/1862
Born in Alleghany Co. in NY S 22 years of age5’ 7” high, light complexion, blue eyes, dark hair
Occupation: Farmer
Station: Camp Convalescent, Ft. Elsworth, VA10/2/1862 Anchylosis (the fusion of a joint, often in an abnormal position, usually resulting from destruction of articular cartilage and subchondral bone, ) the jaw from a wound probably of the ______process Gun shot wound of head -
Delila R. Shay entitled to $20 per month commencing 9/8/1916 … Act of July 14, 1862 - No. 176368
Silas L. Shay - Wellsville, Allegany Cty, NY Received: 7/15/1872 Received arrears of $8 per month from 10/7/1862 go 7/14/1872 $8 fro 7/15/1872 to 8/27/1884$12 per month /13/1890 to death
Deed - dated 12/14/1883 - for $4,200 - piece of land Miles T. Chase & Wife to Silas L Shay-
And Johnson Chase & Wife to Delila R. Roberts 4/28/1873 for $1500.00
Delilah R Chase - married Silas 7/3/1884 Sweden Potter PA by Rev Carr had child Bessie Lila Shay 28 July 1885
Gun Shot Wound of head received at Battle of Cedar Mountain VA Aug 9 1862 - ball entered about ½ inch forward of lower part of left ear passing through the head and coming out about one inch forward of the center of right ear injuring the jaw bone. Impaired hearing in both ears found on examination - reference to the medical reference for action Wounded face - severely - Aug 9, 1862 near Culpener Court House, VA Cedar Mtn treated 8/13 to 8/30 1862 - Vulnus sclopeticum; 8/30 to 9/18, 1862 Vul. Sclopt. 9/18 to 9/24 Debilitas, ret’d to duty .. ball entered on the left side half an inch in front of lobe of ear passed through and came out two inches in front lobe of right ear. Incomplete ankylossi of inferior maxillary hastication very imperfect (nearly impossible)/ Voice much changed and nearly suppressed/ He has a vigorous organization and could be take sufficient nourishment might have great power of endurance. … unnatural articulation -- vocal sound impossible … now almost complete anchylosis of two joints separates jaws about 3/8 inch - disability total - cicatrices sound, some adhesion of skin to underlying structures. Near left eye, there is a constant muces-purelent discharge - there is obstruction of lachrynnal duct.
Clothing account : 12/3/1861 - $15.69 2/28/1862 - $5.673/29/1862 $10.796/12/1862 $1.94
Said Silas was wounded at the battled of Cedar Mountain on 9 Aug 1862 and lost his knapsack haversack and canteen.
Enlisted 22 years of age - in Warren Cty PA
Received $938.13 for arrears 10/7/1862 to 7/15/1872 -
Feb 28 1872 affidavit of Silas Shay - resident of Alma in Allegany Cty - Discharged in Alexander VA in 10/1862 Currently 32 yrs. Battle Cedar Mountain Aug 9 1862 received gunshot wound - the ball entering the had about one half inch forward of the lower part of the left ear passing through the head and coming out about 1 inch forward of the center of the right ear that his jaw bone is .. injured so much so that he can open his mouth only about one-half inch is painful when eating and taking much time in eating and preparing the food suitable to insert into his mouth.
The injury effects his head and his hearing and produces a dissiness in the head and in attempting to work in the sun he is majorally affected that he unable to do but .. labour by reason of the wound.
By occupation is a farmer that he was treated in hospital in Alexandria Anapolas MD was sent back to Alexandra from Alexander Hospital to convalensant camp. He has resided since he left the service in ____ PA and in Allegany C NY. That he hereby appoints Lewis Foster of Wellsville as his attorney to prosecute his claim.
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Wow,When reading about the head injury from a gunshot...it was exactly how my great-grandfather George Heath mentioned it to his children and grandchildren. He always talked about having 3 family members that served in the War. He knew the one that suffered from the gunshot to the head. My uncle Lynn couldn't remember how that member fit into the family. George Heath would have been 15 years old when Silas Shay died. I am pretty sure that Silas Shay was a brother to James Shay and uncle to Jane & Nancy. This is all starting to tie together.
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Here's a quick synopsis of the documents (excuse the typos)
Delila R. Shay - Widow of Silas L. Shay
Silas died 4/18/1902
People present at marriage are all dead except claimant Delila R. Shay
She was married before and former husband died about the year 1883
First husband was B. F. Roberts married 1862
Married to Shay for about 22 years
He was never married before
Lived together as man and wife until his death Silas L. Shay
At time of his death - he 119 acres of land in Sweden Township
5 Cows, 1 horse and farming implements
1 legal heir - daughter who married William Manley
Died Intestate - Widow only receive 1/3 of his property
Left no life insurance or other means of support for his wife Delila Shay
Own right owned 94 acres of land in Sweden Township
Married 3 July 1884 in Sweden to Silas
She married B. F. Roberts June 1, 1862 and he died April 18, 1882
William Manley husband of Shay’s daughter and heir occupies the farm and has charge of all the property left by Silas Shay
Also charge of farm belonging to Delila R. Shay
No leases of any kind
He works the farm
Delila makes her home with said Wm Manley
Certificate of Disability for Discharge Silas L. Shay - Enlisted 3 Nov 1861 to serve 3 years
Discharged 10/6/1862
Born in Alleghany Co. in NY S 22 years of age5’ 7” high, light complexion, blue eyes, dark hair
Occupation: Farmer
Station: Camp Convalescent, Ft. Elsworth, VA10/2/1862 Anchylosis (the fusion of a joint, often in an abnormal position, usually resulting from destruction of articular cartilage and subchondral bone, ) the jaw from a wound probably of the ______process Gun shot wound of head -
Delila R. Shay entitled to $20 per month commencing 9/8/1916 … Act of July 14, 1862 - No. 176368
Silas L. Shay - Wellsville, Allegany Cty, NY Received: 7/15/1872 Received arrears of $8 per month from 10/7/1862 go 7/14/1872 $8 fro 7/15/1872 to 8/27/1884$12 per month /13/1890 to death
Deed - dated 12/14/1883 - for $4,200 - piece of land Miles T. Chase & Wife to Silas L Shay-
And Johnson Chase & Wife to Delila R. Roberts 4/28/1873 for $1500.00
Delilah R Chase - married Silas 7/3/1884 Sweden Potter PA by Rev Carr had child Bessie Lila Shay 28 July 1885
Gun Shot Wound of head received at Battle of Cedar Mountain VA Aug 9 1862 - ball entered about ½ inch forward of lower part of left ear passing through the head and coming out about one inch forward of the center of right ear injuring the jaw bone. Impaired hearing in both ears found on examination - reference to the medical reference for action Wounded face - severely - Aug 9, 1862 near Culpener Court House, VA Cedar Mtn treated 8/13 to 8/30 1862 - Vulnus sclopeticum; 8/30 to 9/18, 1862 Vul. Sclopt. 9/18 to 9/24 Debilitas, ret’d to duty .. ball entered on the left side half an inch in front of lobe of ear passed through and came out two inches in front lobe of right ear. Incomplete ankylossi of inferior maxillary hastication very imperfect (nearly impossible)/ Voice much changed and nearly suppressed/ He has a vigorous organization and could be take sufficient nourishment might have great power of endurance. … unnatural articulation -- vocal sound impossible … now almost complete anchylosis of two joints separates jaws about 3/8 inch - disability total - cicatrices sound, some adhesion of skin to underlying structures. Near left eye, there is a constant muces-purelent discharge - there is obstruction of lachrynnal duct.
Clothing account : 12/3/1861 - $15.69 2/28/1862 - $5.673/29/1862 $10.796/12/1862 $1.94
Said Silas was wounded at the battled of Cedar Mountain on 9 Aug 1862 and lost his knapsack haversack and canteen.
Enlisted 22 years of age - in Warren Cty PA
Received $938.13 for arrears 10/7/1862 to 7/15/1872 -
Feb 28 1872 affidavit of Silas Shay - resident of Alma in Allegany Cty - Discharged in Alexander VA in 10/1862 Currently 32 yrs. Battle Cedar Mountain Aug 9 1862 received gunshot wound - the ball entering the had about one half inch forward of the lower part of the left ear passing through the head and coming out about 1 inch forward of the center of the right ear that his jaw bone is .. injured so much so that he can open his mouth only about one-half inch is painful when eating and taking much time in eating and preparing the food suitable to insert into his mouth.
The injury effects his head and his hearing and produces a dissiness in the head and in attempting to work in the sun he is majorally affected that he unable to do but .. labour by reason of the wound.
By occupation is a farmer that he was treated in hospital in Alexandria Anapolas MD was sent back to Alexandra from Alexander Hospital to convalensant camp. He has resided since he left the service in ____ PA and in Allegany C NY. That he hereby appoints Lewis Foster of Wellsville as his attorney to prosecute his claim.
March 23, 2008 - Silas Shay's Pension Files
The file hasn't arrived yet in the mail. I'm hoping this week. As I said before, last time it was only a couple of days after the charge went through. I came across a book title that may be of help to us.
I haven't found a copy yet but thought I would go to the library and see if SU could get a copy from another institute.
Some descendants of Peter Shay of New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania / edited by Mary Ann Nicholson.by Nicholson, Mary Ann. [United States : M.A. Nicholson?, 1986] Subjects· Shea family.Description: [3] leaves, 32 p. : ill. ; 28 cm.
Notes: Title from cover."October 1986"--Leaf [3]Includes index."Supplements the article, 'Shays of Livingston County, New York,' published in The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record in October 1986."--Foreword
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I haven't found a copy yet but thought I would go to the library and see if SU could get a copy from another institute.
Some descendants of Peter Shay of New Jersey, New York, and Pennsylvania / edited by Mary Ann Nicholson.by Nicholson, Mary Ann. [United States : M.A. Nicholson?, 1986] Subjects· Shea family.Description: [3] leaves, 32 p. : ill. ; 28 cm.
Notes: Title from cover."October 1986"--Leaf [3]Includes index."Supplements the article, 'Shays of Livingston County, New York,' published in The New York Genealogical and Biographical Record in October 1986."--Foreword
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March 20, 2008 - William Heath's Pension Papers Arrived!!
William Heath's pension records arrived today in the mail. Not too much info...25 pages total. Below is the info I have. I will email you a scan copy on Monday when I go back to work.
William A. HeathRank: PrivateCompany: FRegiment: 210 PA. vol. infService: Sept. 3, 1864 - May 30, 1865
William was approved for $6.00 a month as an invalid. He suffered from rheumatism and kidney trouble which was the reason he received his pension as an invalid.
William Heath made a statement on Dec. 16, 1891 complaining that he has spells of pain in his left hip and shoulder and down to his calves and legs. He also has pain in his back and has to pass water frequently.
William Heath was described as 5'9, 160 lbs, dark hair, blue eyes with a dark complexion.
On Feb 16, 1906, Frank Heath, William's brother made a declaration for children under 16 years of age. He was listed as the legal guardian of the minor children James Monroe Heath and Katherine Heath. (The record actually lists James' middle name as Monroe).
The records show that William Heath died on October 30, 1903 in Brookland, Potter Co., PA and he married Jane Shay on September 26, 1885 in Raymond, Potter Co., PA.
Jane died March 19, 1898 - cause of death not listed.
Following children born to the couple that were living as of July 4, 1898:
George - b. Oct 20, 1886
William - b. Oct. 13, 1888
James - b. July 12, 1891
Katharine - b. Sept. 6, 1893
Civil War Medical Records show William treated as follows:Jan 5 to Feb 1, 1865 - Diarrhea, Remit FeverFeb 1 to 10, 1865 - Intermittent FeverFeb 10 & 11, 1865 - Typhoid Fever Feb 12 to Apr 14, 1865, Intermittent Fever
I look forward to what Silas' records have to say about him.
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I went home for Kitty's funeral - I'll check as soon as I get back.Interesting that Jane's named her son James Monroe.....I still think there may be a connection to the Monroes in census for Potter County - Monroes, Shays, etc. came from the same general area in NY.
William A. HeathRank: PrivateCompany: FRegiment: 210 PA. vol. infService: Sept. 3, 1864 - May 30, 1865
William was approved for $6.00 a month as an invalid. He suffered from rheumatism and kidney trouble which was the reason he received his pension as an invalid.
William Heath made a statement on Dec. 16, 1891 complaining that he has spells of pain in his left hip and shoulder and down to his calves and legs. He also has pain in his back and has to pass water frequently.
William Heath was described as 5'9, 160 lbs, dark hair, blue eyes with a dark complexion.
On Feb 16, 1906, Frank Heath, William's brother made a declaration for children under 16 years of age. He was listed as the legal guardian of the minor children James Monroe Heath and Katherine Heath. (The record actually lists James' middle name as Monroe).
The records show that William Heath died on October 30, 1903 in Brookland, Potter Co., PA and he married Jane Shay on September 26, 1885 in Raymond, Potter Co., PA.
Jane died March 19, 1898 - cause of death not listed.
Following children born to the couple that were living as of July 4, 1898:
George - b. Oct 20, 1886
William - b. Oct. 13, 1888
James - b. July 12, 1891
Katharine - b. Sept. 6, 1893
Civil War Medical Records show William treated as follows:Jan 5 to Feb 1, 1865 - Diarrhea, Remit FeverFeb 1 to 10, 1865 - Intermittent FeverFeb 10 & 11, 1865 - Typhoid Fever Feb 12 to Apr 14, 1865, Intermittent Fever
I look forward to what Silas' records have to say about him.
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I went home for Kitty's funeral - I'll check as soon as I get back.Interesting that Jane's named her son James Monroe.....I still think there may be a connection to the Monroes in census for Potter County - Monroes, Shays, etc. came from the same general area in NY.
March 17, 2008 - Silas Shay's Pension Records
My credit card was charged today so the file must be ready for shipping. Will keep you posted!
Also, on a sad note. I was advised this morning that my cousin Kitty passed away early this morning. If might have met her at the reunion - but she is the one that the movie "Conviction of Kitty Dodds" was based on her life story.
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I'm sorry to hear about your cousin Kitty. I remember meeting her last summer and I remember seeing the movie many years back.
I am being told that my request for William Heath's service records are still servicing. I put in the request 3/2/09 and haven't been charged yet. Below is the tracking number.
F41-44596984E
I am hoping it will ship soon. I am interested to see what Silas Shay's records have to say.
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I looked at my bank statement and last year when I ordered James Shay - when the charge hit my acct - I had the file in a day or two. My account still says it is servicing but I assuming that the "record keeping" runs a little later than the actual shipment. I am hoping it is. I also received some information from the Swimilar descendants. This would be Ira's g grandmother - Sarah Swimilar. The individual has traced it back to Hessian soldiers coming to fight for the British -- 2 stayed in American ... and thus the saga for the Swimilar (Swimelar, Swimley ... ) descendants. So that was kind of exciting as well.
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Both our requests are awaiting shipment. We should have them within a day or two.
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Thats great...we should have good reading material...i'll scan and copy William Heath's for you. Do you prefer email copy of mailed copy.
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A scan/email version works for me but if it is easier for you to copy that is okay too.
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I'll do the same for the Silas's folder - what would you prefer?
Also, on a sad note. I was advised this morning that my cousin Kitty passed away early this morning. If might have met her at the reunion - but she is the one that the movie "Conviction of Kitty Dodds" was based on her life story.
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I'm sorry to hear about your cousin Kitty. I remember meeting her last summer and I remember seeing the movie many years back.
I am being told that my request for William Heath's service records are still servicing. I put in the request 3/2/09 and haven't been charged yet. Below is the tracking number.
F41-44596984E
I am hoping it will ship soon. I am interested to see what Silas Shay's records have to say.
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I looked at my bank statement and last year when I ordered James Shay - when the charge hit my acct - I had the file in a day or two. My account still says it is servicing but I assuming that the "record keeping" runs a little later than the actual shipment. I am hoping it is. I also received some information from the Swimilar descendants. This would be Ira's g grandmother - Sarah Swimilar. The individual has traced it back to Hessian soldiers coming to fight for the British -- 2 stayed in American ... and thus the saga for the Swimilar (Swimelar, Swimley ... ) descendants. So that was kind of exciting as well.
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Both our requests are awaiting shipment. We should have them within a day or two.
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Thats great...we should have good reading material...i'll scan and copy William Heath's for you. Do you prefer email copy of mailed copy.
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A scan/email version works for me but if it is easier for you to copy that is okay too.
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I'll do the same for the Silas's folder - what would you prefer?
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