the 1850 census show Hiram and Sarah Shay in Newburgh NY - there is a son James Shay 15. I find these interesting because I believe some of his siblings can be located later in OH. Will check further.
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I saw this also awhile back. I thought that it might have been a possibility since it puts James around the same age and a birth location that we know matches up with our James.
I think the strongest possibility is that James Shay is the son of Peter Shay & Sophronia Sutton who resided in Allegany County, New York. They had 8 children, 7 accounted for, 1 son unaccounted for.
1) Nathaniel Shay (b. 1830) - 1897 marriage record indicates he is the son of Peter & Sophronia.
2) Mary Shay (b. 1831) - 1850 census links her as sibling to Nancy, George & William Shay)
3) Nancy Shay (b. 1832) - 1870 census & 1880 census links her as sibling of Silas & Amanda
4) George Shay (b. 1834) - later relocated to Ohio.
5) Unknown male (b. bet 1835-1840) - 1840 census shows extra male under 5 years old living with Peter Shay. Unaccounted for afterwards.
6) William Shay (b. 1838) - death record states that he is the son of Peter Shay & Sophronia Sutton
7) Silas Shay (b. 1840) - 1860 census links him as sibling of Mary Shay & Amanda, 1870 & 1880 links him as sibling with Nancy.
8) Amanda Shay (b. 1841) - 1860 & 1870 census links her as sibling of Mary & Silas.
The 1850 census has Mary, Nancy, George & William accounted for living with Mary and her husband in Warren Co., PA. Peter Shay, Sophronia, Nathaniel, Unknown son, Silas and Amanda are unaccounted for. I have a strong feeling that if we can located them in an 1850 census then we will find the unknown son who most likely is James Shay (b. 1836). Trivia: My great grandfather George Heath use to tell his grandchildren that he had 3 family members who fought in the Civil War. One of those men was shot in the face and had to be discharged from the Army. George's father William Heath & grandfather James Shay are accounted for and neither were shot in the face.
Silas Shay resided in Sweden Township, Potter Co., PA from the 1880's to his death in 1902. Sweden boards Brookland which is where George, William, Jim & Kate Heath grew up with their parents. Silas Shay was also discharged from the Army during the Civil War due to a serious injury. I do not know what this injury was.
Also 1880 census has Silas living in Allegany Co., NY with Nancy's family. But he married a woman Delilah Roberts in Sweden Twp, Potter Co in 1884. Sometime between 1880-1884 he bought a farm in Sweden Twp. at nearly the same time that Thomas Owens, Nancy Shay Owens & Jane Shay decided to move to Sweden Twp, PA from Scott Co., MO. I find it hard to believe that a move that far was random from MO to PA, especially when Thomas, Nancy & Jane were all teenagers. (My theory is that Silas was the uncle of Nancy & Jane and upon Nancy's marriage, invited them to live on his new farm he had purchased).
Since you were nice to cover the costs of the pension records of James Shay, next week I will be sending away for the pension records of William Heath & Silas Shay and see what info if any it will provide. If the records show that Silas had been shot in the face during the Civil War then I will know that he is indeed related to the family.
Let me know what you think of my theory of James Shay possibly being a son of Peter Shay & Sophronia Sutton.
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My sister has offered to pay for one of the records. Would you like me to order the Silas Shay record?
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That sounds good...I'm putting in for the record for William Heath today. Jeremy
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