Frederick & Elizabeth Mayberry, along with several children & grandchildren are buried in Cane Creek Cemetery located in Wickliffe, Ballard Co., KY. There are no cemetery listings online but I ordered a book BALLARD COUNTY KY CEMETERIES Vol. III from the Ballard Co., KY historical society that contains listings of people buried in Cane Creek Cemetery.
Cane Creek Cemetery is affiliated with the Cane Creek Baptist Church in Wickliffe. The church is still around today. I will try and see if I can contact the church to see if they have old records from the mid 1800's. Perhaps they kept family, birth, marriage & death information from back then. This might be our only option of piecing the Mayberry family together since most records that were kept at the court house prior to 1880 we destroyed in a fire. Either this church and cemetery listings or hopefully we can find living descendants that might have kept a good family history.
Cane Creek Cemetery is affiliated with the Cane Creek Baptist Church in Wickliffe. The church is still around today. I will try and see if I can contact the church to see if they have old records from the mid 1800's. Perhaps they kept family, birth, marriage & death information from back then. This might be our only option of piecing the Mayberry family together since most records that were kept at the court house prior to 1880 we destroyed in a fire. Either this church and cemetery listings or hopefully we can find living descendants that might have kept a good family history.
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Thanks for the update. I've been drafting a letter to send to the Clayton -- I'll send the draft to you tonight for your input. I think I may have found some info on the Earl Owens. I'll send the info that I have on the children. I've attempted to update my ancestry family tree as well.
I've started to transcript/type the various documents contained in the pension file.
I've started to transcript/type the various documents contained in the pension file.
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Oh wow...I am about a quarter of the way through typing the various documents contained in the pension file...10 pages from about 6 to 7 people typed up so far. I do about 1 statement a night. My mother jokes that I am too young to spend my free time typing these pages up...she is afraid she'll never be a grandmother...ha ha.
Since I started typing the pension statements, I started noticing many little things I missed the first time around when reading. The characters involved are very interesting and I am getting a very vivid picture in my mind of everyone involved with James Shay & Rebecca Peal during the 1860's & 1870's.
The doctor described Rebecca as white-livered which at the time meant the following: cowardly; malicious; feeble; pusillanimous; dastardly. It was most certainty a derogatory term for her. He was probably referring to her as malicious and sneaky. Dastardly is also defined as sneaky. I wonder if the doctor suspected that James Shay was sick as a result of Rebecca or that he felt Rebecca was not sincere and upset enough when she was about to be widowed.
Also there was a warning that N.N. Hill, the special examiner noted in one of the files that two of the guys who gave statements was not to be trusted. These two guys were the ones to give statements about Joseph Brown's death. Everyone else, they stated that knew about the drowning was dead by 1894. Several others who had statements did not know anything about the drowning.
I wonder if the drowning story of Joseph Brown was invented by Rebecca and her closest friends and relatives, years after the fact to cover up a possible bigamous marriage to James Shay. She was never divorced from Joseph Brown and she might have married James Shay knowing this fact.
One scenario was that Rebecca, having been separated a year from Joseph Brown but not divorced, suddenly found herself in a postion that she needed to marry James Shay right away. To willingly marry her deceased sister's widower within 6 months of her sister's death could have been quite scandalous. Also the fact that James took Rebecca over state lines to another county to marry her suggests possible shame and embarrashment of the situation. I think a logical reason was an unplanned pregnancy by him. Otherwise James & Rebecca might have waited till he had an appropriate amount of mourning time in front of him and she had Joseph Brown either declared dead or divorced him. We do know that they had 1 child together that was "born-dead".
Since an unplanned pregnancy could have had some difficult implications for her...especially the risk of an out of wedlock child. She might not have been able to take the time to locate Joseph Brown and get divorced. This is why so many people were confused and given vague information about Rebecca's first married to Joseph Brown when she married James Shay. Friends at the time in 1868 didn't seem to know anything about a drowning. They were assuming that there was a divorce since Joseph left Rebecca in 1867.
I am thinking of submitting a copy along with a copy of the original pension records to the Scott County, MO historical society when I'm done. They would find it interesting and this could prove useful to any descendants of Rebecca if they start researching their family history.
Since I started typing the pension statements, I started noticing many little things I missed the first time around when reading. The characters involved are very interesting and I am getting a very vivid picture in my mind of everyone involved with James Shay & Rebecca Peal during the 1860's & 1870's.
The doctor described Rebecca as white-livered which at the time meant the following: cowardly; malicious; feeble; pusillanimous; dastardly. It was most certainty a derogatory term for her. He was probably referring to her as malicious and sneaky. Dastardly is also defined as sneaky. I wonder if the doctor suspected that James Shay was sick as a result of Rebecca or that he felt Rebecca was not sincere and upset enough when she was about to be widowed.
Also there was a warning that N.N. Hill, the special examiner noted in one of the files that two of the guys who gave statements was not to be trusted. These two guys were the ones to give statements about Joseph Brown's death. Everyone else, they stated that knew about the drowning was dead by 1894. Several others who had statements did not know anything about the drowning.
I wonder if the drowning story of Joseph Brown was invented by Rebecca and her closest friends and relatives, years after the fact to cover up a possible bigamous marriage to James Shay. She was never divorced from Joseph Brown and she might have married James Shay knowing this fact.
One scenario was that Rebecca, having been separated a year from Joseph Brown but not divorced, suddenly found herself in a postion that she needed to marry James Shay right away. To willingly marry her deceased sister's widower within 6 months of her sister's death could have been quite scandalous. Also the fact that James took Rebecca over state lines to another county to marry her suggests possible shame and embarrashment of the situation. I think a logical reason was an unplanned pregnancy by him. Otherwise James & Rebecca might have waited till he had an appropriate amount of mourning time in front of him and she had Joseph Brown either declared dead or divorced him. We do know that they had 1 child together that was "born-dead".
Since an unplanned pregnancy could have had some difficult implications for her...especially the risk of an out of wedlock child. She might not have been able to take the time to locate Joseph Brown and get divorced. This is why so many people were confused and given vague information about Rebecca's first married to Joseph Brown when she married James Shay. Friends at the time in 1868 didn't seem to know anything about a drowning. They were assuming that there was a divorce since Joseph left Rebecca in 1867.
I am thinking of submitting a copy along with a copy of the original pension records to the Scott County, MO historical society when I'm done. They would find it interesting and this could prove useful to any descendants of Rebecca if they start researching their family history.
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remember that comment - I wasn't sure what the doctor was referring to -- I thought it could have referred to the Indian connection. Jane Peal stated in an affidavit that the baby lived for 5 hours.
Last night I discussed with my sister your email regarding Peal's death certificate -- it indicated that she was Widow twice - if Brown was dead - she would have been a widow three times. Also, it was implied that Rutledge had to marry her because of the scandal of his affair with her. One affidavit made reference to Rutledge giving Peal's watch to an individual to give to her when he left town. I really thought that was odd. And, the doctor...he couldn't write his name....
I'm really hoping that the Owens descendants have something -- I'm hoping that Jane Peal and Nancy were in contact with one another.....
I'll let you know the documents that I have typed and will send them to you. I have left blanks where I couldn't decipher the word.
There are in WORD format -- I've actually started in an EXCEL spreadsheet and put the various info in different fields and then the entire text in a separate field - I was going to scan the original as a jpeg and put that in a field...but then switched to just typing the documents as WORD files. I can always go back and put them in the database. My original intent was to be able to sort them in chronological order and then sort by key words.
Also, at noon I walked with someone from the School of Education - she suggested that the TN State Library may have documents on microfilm - she said she has found info there regarding some KY descendants. She was able to borrow copies through our University Inter-Loan program. I'll check into that later.
Last night I discussed with my sister your email regarding Peal's death certificate -- it indicated that she was Widow twice - if Brown was dead - she would have been a widow three times. Also, it was implied that Rutledge had to marry her because of the scandal of his affair with her. One affidavit made reference to Rutledge giving Peal's watch to an individual to give to her when he left town. I really thought that was odd. And, the doctor...he couldn't write his name....
I'm really hoping that the Owens descendants have something -- I'm hoping that Jane Peal and Nancy were in contact with one another.....
I'll let you know the documents that I have typed and will send them to you. I have left blanks where I couldn't decipher the word.
There are in WORD format -- I've actually started in an EXCEL spreadsheet and put the various info in different fields and then the entire text in a separate field - I was going to scan the original as a jpeg and put that in a field...but then switched to just typing the documents as WORD files. I can always go back and put them in the database. My original intent was to be able to sort them in chronological order and then sort by key words.
Also, at noon I walked with someone from the School of Education - she suggested that the TN State Library may have documents on microfilm - she said she has found info there regarding some KY descendants. She was able to borrow copies through our University Inter-Loan program. I'll check into that later.
We definitely need to write a book about our journey.
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